Salvia Trip

My First Two Times

Posted by DonS on 20/09/2008
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Experience One-
I bought from SageWisdom the 2 oz. bottle of the Sage Goddess Emerald Essence tincture.

I went to a quiet, isolated peaceful spot near a beautiful river & created a place of power for myself to experience this.

After reading & re-reading the materials, I opted for the measured dosages for 4 minutes each over the 15 minute period. I took 2 droppers full combined with an equal amount of hot water for 4 minutes consecutively over a 12 minute period. Total of 6 diluted droppers in the 15 minute period. I swallowed the first mouthful after the 4 minutes & gagged. I spit the others out after the 4 minutes. This was described as a moderate dosage. (Level 2?)

I closed my eyes & waited about 15 minutes & experience a mild dizziness & relaxation, which quickly faded.

I waited another 10 minutes & repeated the process, with the same result. In the end, I consumed HALF the bottle this way over a 2-hour period with almost NO noticeable effect. I was relaxed, but kind of irritated that nothing much was happening. The last dosage was taken with almost no dilution, yet I held that one for a total of 10 minutes. The roof of my mouth had blisters for 3 days. Highly disappointed in the result, made worse by the realization that I'd spent over $100 an ounce for this stuff..Green Gold.
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Experience Two-
Went back to my beautiful isolated spot by the river again to try this again with new information.
It appears that the smaller measured doses over the 15 minute period didn't work for me the first time, so I did the much stronger strength (Level 4-5?) diluted with an equal amount warm honey water, & set out to hold the entire dose in my mouth for 15 minutes. 6 droppers full of tincture with 6-7 droppers full of warm honey water.

First, it's obvious I didn't dilute it enough, because I had NASTY painful blisters on the roof of my mouth. Second, it appears I only was able to hold it about 6-7 minutes before I entered a reality I wasn't prepared for. I didn't have a sitter..One because of my first lack of experience, and two, this was on a Thursday afternoon. My best friend was working, but I had the entire river to myself.

I had a small digital voice recorder to time myself & allow me to record the experience.

BUT...To sum up this experience, it fucking scared the shit out of me. I'm grateful I didn't die, hurt myself or alter my brain to the point of no return. Not at all what I was looking for or expecting. I've read the experiences I could find on this & other sites, & mine was similar, I guess; I think I just wasn't prepared for the sudden, powerful onset, nor the intensity.

I have no real way to describe it, but there was a repeated refrain of words coming from somewhere telling me "just a little more, just a little more" over & over, (I suppose telling me to hold it in my mouth just a little longer); then when whatever was supposed to happen DID happen, I was GONE. (I don't remember if I spit it out or swallowed it, probably not the latter; this is some nasty tasting shit). I felt like the earth, trees & sky swallowed me or something & I became terrified & desperate to get the fuck out of there. I felt like I became a bullfighter or matador with the towel I was using to catch the drool from my numbed mouth, using it to taunt reality or the get the chant back to something I could comprehend. (The green stuff really stains fabric..)

I was spinning vertically amongst the trees by the river. I tried to sit down & close my eyes but wherever I went wasn't ANYTHING like the beautiful space I'd tried to place myself in for this experience. I'm glad it lasted only about 10 minutes at its peak, & when I became aware of myself & surroundings again all I could do was walk around saying "What the fuck have I done to myself?"

I gradually came to, found myself drenched in sweat, sat down, ate a sandwich, drank some juice & fell into a deep sleep in my chair the woods by the river for about 30 minutes.

I had hoped to travel back to my childhood somehow, get glimpses of long suppressed memories or experiences, or at least understand them in a new way. But my terror erased or blocked any new understanding which I may have gleaned.

I'd like to try this again, but at a much lower dose, but I have to say I'm pretty flipped out about this whole ordeal, & it's left me deeply shaken & drained. PLUS, the sores in the roof of my mouth lasted 8 days & I was unable to eat any solid food for about 6 days.

NOW..I still have about 1/3 of the bottle left. I've been advised to evaporate some of it & vaporize & inhale the vapor. (I smoked so much pot in my past that my lungs are easily irritated by ANY form of smoke, but this should be such a small amount that the lung effect would be minimal.)

I want to use this as a spiritual journey, a way to unlock hidden secrets, to seek wisdom form the Sage Goddess Mother. I thought I tuned in to Spirit prior to both experiences, but obviously I wasn't on the proper wavelength to communicate with her.

I'm going back to a different (wilderness) spot to try again tomorrow. Hopefully I won't be terrified & I can ask Her to take my hand & show me the way.

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Posted by GreenDragon333 on 09/21/2008
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Hi Don S,

I have used salvia in a few different ways (smoked regular leaf, quid, extract leaf) without any sitter and I think I need to have one around for some potential new tries with the salvia.. although I have really enjoyed the solo salvia times i have had.. . really get a free feeling during and after...

for some reason I seem to get intense visual distortions (not like other hallucinations on lsd, shrooms, etc) that are very distinct and unique and come rapidly then are gone very quickly.. (heavy layered mirror visuals as if I was in between 2 mirrors where the reflection goes endlessly).. also seems like it is from inward but sometime from outside... like I am a peeled onion being opened up layers upon layers.. or the fractured slices of vision are being thrust upon me like a wind with great force..

my experiences have been good but I think I understand your fears and like you don't want to just let it be what it is..

with my past experiences with the other substances I learned to flow with it and deal with things.. just from reading your accounts and seeing your questions to other posts on here I think a sitter would be a great idea for you.. but I am new to salvia also and am no authority for sure..

I have had many LSD and Mescaline (crystalline - my favorite, not peyote) and shroom adventures. In some ways they are similar but each has it's own distinct signature for sure.

You might find it interesting that I really don't like pakalolo (budz - Maui Wowie) because it makes me extremely paranoid and lazy and I seem to SPIRAL into unfounded fears.. weird I know.. and I live in Maui..lol

Thanks for sharing and do the right thing.. I think you have a good idea how to proceed..

Posted by freesevenluck on 10/25/2008
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I bought from SageWisdom the 2 oz. bottle of the Sage Goddess Emerald Essence tincture. And 2 extra strength enhanced Leaf 25 mg.

First i tried out the 25 mg leafs in my pipe.
I held the smoke in until i couldnt hold it anymore. The first 25 mg didnt do anything to me.It was only 2 hits worth. So i smoked the second one. After the last hit of the 2nd 25 mg i got a feeling of dizzyness so i layed down in the bed and reach up to put my pipe on the backboard of the bed. As i sat the pipe down and begain to lay back down i got a vision of two hands reaching for me trying to grab me.I felt it was the pipe trying to get me to smoke more.The hands keep reaching for me for about a minute and a half after that i just felt high for about another 4 mins. Then it was over. I was disappointed with the results so i decided to try the Sage Goddess.I followed the instructions for a mild dose of the tincture undiluted. Eww it was awful the taste and it burnted like hell for about 2 minutes. I held it in for 10 mins and nothing happend, so i spit it out. And tryed it again with a Moderate dose. This time i held it for about 16 mins.Still nothing was happening other than i just felt relaxed but of course if your layin still in bed your going to be relaxed. I was pissed i just spent 250 dollors on some bullshit. Mabye im doing somthing wrong. I still have 3/4 s a bottle of this left. Can anyone give me any ideas of what i did wrong of didnt do. Is there anyway i can let this evaporate and smoke it as resien. I feel if id smoked more i would have had a better outcome.

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